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Review: New M5 Shockproof Ti 559!
original Date of Review: July 19, 2004
| Update: June 15, 2007
THIS BIKE IS FOR SALE - EMAIL ME IF
INTERESTED
The price shown below is what M5 Lists for this
bicycle as a "Starting Price" as of April 3, 2005. This is
the EXACT SAME bicycle as I am selling, upgraded with the Ti Rack
and Seat Pack and Computer. If you want this bike I am
asking a very fair price of $2,600! I have not ridden
this bike in almost 2 years now. Call FedEx and ask them
how much it will cost you to import this bicycle and you'll see
this is a great deal. I'm eating over $1,600 off of what I
paid.
newcontact [at] recumbentbicyclesource.com
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Conversion as of 4/03/05 |
2,773.00
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Euro |
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3,575.18
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United States Dollars |
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Here is another sites opinion of the M5
Shockproof bicycle reviewed in March 2005.
| I like the bike but
the owner of M5 is unethical (And that's as nice as I can be). Apparently I'm not the only one
who feels this way, in
fact I'm merely one of several with bad customer experiences
and this individual. Here is an unsolicited email sent to me by an M5 Tandem
Owner in the Netherlands. Remember the bicycle I am
selling is Titanium and has had no service issues to date, nor
has the "shockproof" model line.
"Just stumbled on your review of
Shockproof Ti. Screwing customers seems to be a general
practice at M5. I've got a M5 tandem, and my rear fork
broke. Bram first promised to fix it, and admitted
that old series forks break easily. But after two month he
still did nothing, was denying that old forks are not so
strong, and wanted to charge me 200 euro's just to fix the
old one. Bastard. I know 3 people with M5 tandems. Two of
them got broken rear forks, the third one I never asked.
Probably you would like to add this info on your site to
make people more cautious when dealing with M5."
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As much as I would like it to be lighter and a
better climber I still stand by my statements that the
construction is top notch. This bike is exceptionally well
built (but you pay the price in weight). I still hate the
brakes - yuck! They slow you down but don't stop you on the
hills. On the flats the brakes are adequate.
This is a fun bike to ride, gets lots of looks,
and I like the color scheme with the Titanium/Black. In
hindsight I wish I had opted for the 650c wheels and less spokes.
I think a little faster wheels would help some in climbing.
I've logged a couple of hundred miles now so I'm pretty
comfortable even at slow speeds. Yes it can be twitchy and
you can get some heel strike, but I wouldn't hold that against the
bike it's what you get with the "low racer" design. So
overall I think it's a solid bike, I just don't think it's worth
the cost I paid.
If you can buy the frame separately you might
consider this as an option to build up your own quasi-fast around
town fun bike. Definitely get the carbon fiber seat, build
you're own wheels, and spec your own component group. I'd
also advise you have an experienced technician help with the
assembly and tuning. Well I've pretty much said all I can
about this model. Caveat Emptor - enjoy you're ride!

Update: August 6, 2004
CLIMBING EXPERIENCE
I took the bike for it's first real climbing
test - an 8 mile climb up a canyon with a 2 to 3% grade, and the
last 2 miles at about 6%. This bicycle is just too heavy to
be a good climber, all the road bikes were passing me. I
maintained about 10mph on the lower part of the climb and it was
all I could do to keep about 6 to 7mph on the upper. And I'm
not tooting my own horn, but I'm in hella good shape because I
ride on average every other day and already have hundreds of miles
on my mountain bike logged this season. So if you want to go
fast in the flats this is a good bike, but if you want to climb
with it you will be disappointed like I am. One MAJOR reason
I bought this bike was for it's low weight (billed as 24.5lbs, but
actually 33lbs). So I guess I'll get a Trek 5200 for
climbing. Yes I've heard all the stories how recumbents can
climb, but if your idea of climbing is 2 to 4mph in granny gears
then I guess you are right. But if you want to maintain a
reasonable speed then I'd opt for the road bike. How many of
you ride centuries anyways? Most of you probably ride 5 to
20 miles for recreation and fun.

YIKES I'VE BEEN SCREWED!
I have spoken too soon about M5's service. I
guess I was excited to be part of the recumbent world. Shortly
after my comment about good service I received a bill from Federal
Express for additional charges. Turns out nobody ever informed me
of these charges and M5 who said the shipping was inclusive is now
refusing to step up to the plate and honor their word BUT THEY
DID KEEP MY MONEY PROFITED AT LEAST $300 ON THE SHIPPING. Fed
Ex never informed me of any extra charges either - otherwise the
bicycle would still be at customs - I WILL NOT BE SCREWED
FURTHER BY BRAM MOENS OR FEDEX.
I paid $600 US and the actual shipping according
to a Fed Ex rep was about $300. So M5 banked $300 profit off of my ignorance. I've learned my lesson, buy from a local dealer
and make sure you know exactly what you are getting for you money.
I guess my good service prior to this invoice was based on the
fact that they had gouged me so hard in shipping. Did they think I
wouldn't find out? But what can you do? Some dealers are honest,
some try to take advantage of you. It was my fault for wanting a
bike I couldn't buy here. In the future I'll make due with the
best American Made product I can find. PERSONALLY I WOULDN'T
PURCHASE ANYTHING FROM M5 AGAIN, BUT YOU'LL HAVE TO DECIDE FOR
YOURSELF.
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FIRST IMPRESSIONS
Wow! That's the feeling I have now after
returning from my first full-blown ride. But about an hour ago
my first impression was - ought oh! What have I done. So
lets step back to the beginning.
I'll spare you all the reasons
why I made the move to a recumbent, lets just say the time was
right. I have other bikes which are quite nice in their own
right.
THE SHOCKPROOF BUYING PROCESS
After researching for a couple of months everything I
wanted in a Recumbent I selected the M5 Shockproof Ti 559 from M5
Ligfietsen! I
wanted the dual 26" wheels and there were not many bikes available
with dual suspension and dual 26" wheels. The suspension ruled
out Volae, Bachetta, and Rans. I choose the Ti Version because I
wanted lighter weight (too bad it isn't really light like it's billed
to be). So I committed and sent off an email to
M5 which was answered quite promptly by Bram Moen. A note to
website owners - YES PEOPLE REALLY DO BUY BIKES THEY FIND ON THE
INTERNET. You (the reader) might be surprised to know that many
of the dealers/manufacturers I contacted via E-mail never responded to
my inquiries. They must have too much business? IF A
DEALER IS GOING TO POST A WEBSITE AND AN EMAIL ADDRESS DON'T YOU THINK
THEY WOULD BE ADVISED TO ANSWER THE EMAIL? I thought so...
anyways back to the Shockproof Ti 559!.
After a process of about 6 weeks of writing back and
forth (It was not a great experience for a person like me who has many
virtues, patience not among them). I'm not sure they (Bram)
thought I was a serious buyer. I had difficulty with my bank
trying to do a wire transfer - In fact they said they could, but
failed to be able to do an international wire transfer correctly.
So I ended up putting the bike on the Visa Card. And was told my
bike was on it's way.
The next series of frustrations began. I received
a telephone call from my Sister telling me that there was a package
for me from FedEx that was being held for some reason. She gave
me a telephone number and a lady to call. I called and of course
received "voice mail". Yikes I thought, this is going to be
another hurdle. Fortunately she called back within the hour.
Due to the Homeland Security Act here in the USA my bike was being
held while until I filled out the necessary Import Paperwork.
Yikes how long was that going to take? I downloaded the
application (Adobe Acrobat Format), and emailed it off. Surprise
- next day my bike arrived! The funny part (in hindsight) of the
story is that FedEx didn't know how to contact me, so they opened the
telephone book for my City and called a person with the same last
name, who turned out to be my uncle. He in turn called my
sister, who called me. Lucky? NOPE! Written in BIG
BLOCK LETTERS right on the top of the box was my Telephone number!
How FedEx missed that I'll never know!
continued Ti
559 Shockproof Review
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